How can I vote for either of the these candidates?

In 1976, the only time I since I turned 18, didn't vote for president I couldn't vote for either Ford or Carter. I would Vote for either of them over Trump or Hillary, I would vote for Berny over eather of them.

Frankly I am being pushed into the never Trump camp. All Trump had to do was to keep his mouth shut and he would have gotten my vote, but Trump is a lose cannon and obviously he can't take advice. Trump wouldn't be attacking a Gold Star parent. I am certain that his adviser are counseling him to stop attacking them. If he had any sense or If he could take advice from cooler wiser heads he would stop. He says things about immigrants that shows that he doesn't have a grasp of the facts. Either he can't tell or he refuses to admit when he is wrong. Temperamentally he is not the right man to run the most powerful nation on earth.

As for Hillary I haven't trusted her since Bill was in office or possibly before. Every time something occures around her the result feels like a cover up. Whitewater, Paula Jones, IRS audit issue, damage to and stealing of white house,  FBI files on Clinton enemies, connections to the Muslim brotherhood, Vince fosters Suicide, Clinton Foundation Scandal, the number of dead people who have died around the Clinton,  Bengausi, using the DCN to supress Berny Sandars and Email gate.  I remember many of these and frankly it adds up to a sleaziness and a willingness to skirt the law if not break it. 

So who should I vote for. Each of the candidates is saying that a vote for an independant is a vote for the other candidate. Both are saying that the other can't be trusted to be president. I think that they are both right. So I am told to vote for the lesser of two evils, but I don't want my name and my vote to be associated with eaither of the candidates. So at this point I won't vote for either, but I will vote for somebody.

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Well I have just gotten threw watching the debate.  Cokie Roberts said t"Trump failed to knock it out of the park like he had to." When I heard this I felt that she is failing to believe that Trump is in the race. Some poles are showing him ahead. I get the feeling that  Hillary and her team don't believe that hie is a real candidate and is really challenging her.

There was a you tube that showed her asking why she isn't 50 ty points ahead. The reason is that people are so frustrated with Washington that they want anybody but them. Trump is an outsider and he is not polished like Hillary. This is one of his strengths people may be annoyed that he seems to be lying but we are confident that he can't keep a secret anyway.

I still don't know who I am going to vote for, but I find my self trusting Hillary less after this debated.

 

The more I hear and the more I learn I can't vote for eaither the Rep or Dem candidates. How did we get here. One of my favorite authous (Heinland) said "If your can't vote for someone you can certainly vote against.

Well frankly I hate (Hate is a strong word dislike is probably better) them both so I will have to voter for some on else. Maybe me Pehaps youll Join me and perhaps this year we can pick Gary Johnson as the better person

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I was talking to Ken Sunday and he was saying that you have to vote for the party. Well I don't find that either party is all that. Both parties have been around so long that they feel that we have to vote for them. There is no choice but to vote republican or democrat or you are throwing your vote away. They are correct, but that doesn't mean that we should abandon our moral obligation and vote for people who don't deserve our vote.

The concern of courses that we will get a more liberal Supreme court. I am concerned about this a liberal activist court is a problem. Having said that I feel compelled to say that an activist court is a problem period liberal or conservative.

Still I believe that we are morally responsible to vote our conscience and my conscience will not let me vote for either Hillary or Donald. They are both scum.

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Well Trump won. The poles said he would loose and we would have Hillary. I am listening to Diane Ring and other NPR, I am hearing two different takes on his win one says that it is a return to racism (I don't see it that way.) and others saying it is good morning in America 2. 

As I have said I don't trust Trump: He can't be as stupid as he seems, but he obviously runs his mouth before his brain. I guess that it is important to remember that we are still in Gods hands.

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It seems sort of ironic that the Dems were afraid that Trump supporters would be violent if they didn’t win the election and now the Democrats are the ones being violent when they lost the race. When they lost the race the Democrats have been staging demonstrations and in some places rioting. I understand that they are shocked and disappointed. They are shocked because the poles showed Clinton ahead by a few percentage points. It looks like there were people who were too embarrassed to admit that they were going to vote for Trump.

Sadly I am hearing sour grapes from Hillary. She is blaming James Comey for her loss, and I am sure his reopening the investigation hurt her. I don’t think an honorable man had any other choice but to reopen the investigation upon finding Clinton emails on the laptop of Wiener.

I think that Hillary lost because the people felt that she would have said or done anything to be president and they didn’t feel that she cared about the people she wanted to represent. This is probably not true. Hillary has a wonderful record of public service. Sadly she also has a record of skirting the edges of the law and that hurt her.